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	<title>Comments on: San Marcos High School Football Rules!</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Supporter</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-26217</link>
		<dc:creator>Supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually really love this logo.  I drive by this school several times a day and love the banners up all over the school with just the helmet portion of the logo.  If you go to their athletic website (I added it's link) it has also taken this logo and made it work for all of the sports and it looks fantastic in its graphic elements.  It's sporty and modern and definately unique.  I'm not crazy about the font/lettering, but the helmet is utilized everywhere without the lettering and I love it.  When you see this graphic anywhere, you know its from San Marcos High School.  That to me is success. 

Job well done Scott.  If the posters to this blog could see this design in action and on the field I believe they would agree it well represents the high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually really love this logo.  I drive by this school several times a day and love the banners up all over the school with just the helmet portion of the logo.  If you go to their athletic website (I added it&#8217;s link) it has also taken this logo and made it work for all of the sports and it looks fantastic in its graphic elements.  It&#8217;s sporty and modern and definately unique.  I&#8217;m not crazy about the font/lettering, but the helmet is utilized everywhere without the lettering and I love it.  When you see this graphic anywhere, you know its from San Marcos High School.  That to me is success. </p>
<p>Job well done Scott.  If the posters to this blog could see this design in action and on the field I believe they would agree it well represents the high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Embry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Embry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Martha...you are as crafty as my Cheetah "Tumba (Swahili for flower)", this logo is sweet money like lilly bear, keep up the good work Mr. Malech!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Martha&#8230;you are as crafty as my Cheetah &#8220;Tumba (Swahili for flower)&#8221;, this logo is sweet money like lilly bear, keep up the good work Mr. Malech!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's crafty! Look at my website for more helpful tips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s crafty! Look at my website for more helpful tips!</p>
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		<title>By: KBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You needed to exam the theory of 3's, not enough triangular shapes to incorporate a mascot into a school design...subpar at best! 

Use this site for inspiration http://mathartfun.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You needed to exam the theory of 3&#8217;s, not enough triangular shapes to incorporate a mascot into a school design&#8230;subpar at best! </p>
<p>Use this site for inspiration <a href="http://mathartfun.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mathartfun.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alana</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-22827</link>
		<dc:creator>Alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This page displays bird logo designs. These logos all share a common feature : they contain images of birds. While the images of birds are a combination of abstract and realistic images, they all share a common theme. If you own a bird pet store, are a bird handler or are involved with a company that is specifically involved with birds, these logos are for you. Different species of birds are ideal for logos as well. They make great mascots and make wonderful visual images for logo designs. They are eyecatching and very easy for people to remember. You don't have to have a company related to birds to use on of our bird logos. Sometimes the type of bird reflects an integral part of your company. Take time to browse through our designs to see if any of our bird logos might work for you.

You can always request to have color changes to these designs at no additional charge. Please note that we also do custom logo design if the designs here are not quite to your liking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This page displays bird logo designs. These logos all share a common feature : they contain images of birds. While the images of birds are a combination of abstract and realistic images, they all share a common theme. If you own a bird pet store, are a bird handler or are involved with a company that is specifically involved with birds, these logos are for you. Different species of birds are ideal for logos as well. They make great mascots and make wonderful visual images for logo designs. They are eyecatching and very easy for people to remember. You don&#8217;t have to have a company related to birds to use on of our bird logos. Sometimes the type of bird reflects an integral part of your company. Take time to browse through our designs to see if any of our bird logos might work for you.</p>
<p>You can always request to have color changes to these designs at no additional charge. Please note that we also do custom logo design if the designs here are not quite to your liking.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximo</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-22826</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thi s is s o true, thank you for tellin g us how yo u reall y feel. I see no b ird, only grea t design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thi s is s o true, thank you for tellin g us how yo u reall y feel. I see no b ird, only grea t design.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm the designer who created this logo, and was quite shocked to see that it's garnered so much interest. If you'll allow me, I'd like to respond to some of the comments.

Kristina, obviously this logo is something that really bothers you. I'm sorry this has had such a traumatic effect on you to be writing a blog about it years later. I appreciate your opinion. What I don't appreciate is the fabrication and exaggeration of our meeting. You were brought in with a group of students and administrators as a courtesy to show you the direction of where we were heading with the logo. I remember your comment about thinking it looked like a bird and that I thanked you for your opinion and calmly explained that there would certainly be some others who didn't like it for one reason or another, but that our goal was to create a logo that would ultimately help with school spirit and morale, and that hopefully most would like. At no point did you say I was terrible and that the design was hideous. This I would remember. At no point did I explode into a tirade or insult you. This would be a foolish business idea and I would surely be thrown off campus and fired from the project if I ever did that in front of ANY client. You make me sound like an egotistical monster. Shame on you. Those who that were there or who know me, know what I'm talking about. That's not my style. You really could have set up this blog without the lie and achieved the same result. 

For the rest of you, thank you for your comments. Looks like some liked it, some didn't and most hated the type treatment. That's fair. I'm not the best nor the worst, I simply do my best. I was hired by principal Nancy Peterson, who had just seen my work for Mission Hills High School, so I agreed and discounted my fees to help the community. I think we've done what we wanted to, and you really have to see the before and after of the logo throughout the school to appreciate it's impact. So many schools these days use clip art logos or steal from pro teams. We didn't and I'm proud to say I was a part of it.

And for the record, I like Bingo's comment.

Thank you all so much. Never stop caring or discussing the good and bad of design, it's what makes us all better at what we do.

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the designer who created this logo, and was quite shocked to see that it&#8217;s garnered so much interest. If you&#8217;ll allow me, I&#8217;d like to respond to some of the comments.</p>
<p>Kristina, obviously this logo is something that really bothers you. I&#8217;m sorry this has had such a traumatic effect on you to be writing a blog about it years later. I appreciate your opinion. What I don&#8217;t appreciate is the fabrication and exaggeration of our meeting. You were brought in with a group of students and administrators as a courtesy to show you the direction of where we were heading with the logo. I remember your comment about thinking it looked like a bird and that I thanked you for your opinion and calmly explained that there would certainly be some others who didn&#8217;t like it for one reason or another, but that our goal was to create a logo that would ultimately help with school spirit and morale, and that hopefully most would like. At no point did you say I was terrible and that the design was hideous. This I would remember. At no point did I explode into a tirade or insult you. This would be a foolish business idea and I would surely be thrown off campus and fired from the project if I ever did that in front of ANY client. You make me sound like an egotistical monster. Shame on you. Those who that were there or who know me, know what I&#8217;m talking about. That&#8217;s not my style. You really could have set up this blog without the lie and achieved the same result. </p>
<p>For the rest of you, thank you for your comments. Looks like some liked it, some didn&#8217;t and most hated the type treatment. That&#8217;s fair. I&#8217;m not the best nor the worst, I simply do my best. I was hired by principal Nancy Peterson, who had just seen my work for Mission Hills High School, so I agreed and discounted my fees to help the community. I think we&#8217;ve done what we wanted to, and you really have to see the before and after of the logo throughout the school to appreciate it&#8217;s impact. So many schools these days use clip art logos or steal from pro teams. We didn&#8217;t and I&#8217;m proud to say I was a part of it.</p>
<p>And for the record, I like Bingo&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>Thank you all so much. Never stop caring or discussing the good and bad of design, it&#8217;s what makes us all better at what we do.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: elyse</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-17534</link>
		<dc:creator>elyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it looks like a cylon raider :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it looks like a cylon raider <img src='http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, my name's Bingo. 

 I like to climb on things. Give me a banana!

 Eek Eek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, my name&#8217;s Bingo. </p>
<p> I like to climb on things. Give me a banana!</p>
<p> Eek Eek.</p>
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		<title>By: Smikel</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-9813</link>
		<dc:creator>Smikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like the logo!  I thought it was clean and well balanced.  The text is an incredibly bad fit (and that term I use very loosely).  It is completely incohesive with the design.  It is blocky, hard to read and has NOTHING to do with the logo except for a medeival feel to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the logo!  I thought it was clean and well balanced.  The text is an incredibly bad fit (and that term I use very loosely).  It is completely incohesive with the design.  It is blocky, hard to read and has NOTHING to do with the logo except for a medeival feel to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-8055</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 22:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Kristina! I work a few blocks away from this high school in San Marcos and I have a few friends who went there too. The new logo you made is awesome. I haven't really paid too much attention to their last logo but if it has a bird on it, then it really doesn't make sense if you are supposed to be a 'Knight'! heh, great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Kristina! I work a few blocks away from this high school in San Marcos and I have a few friends who went there too. The new logo you made is awesome. I haven&#8217;t really paid too much attention to their last logo but if it has a bird on it, then it really doesn&#8217;t make sense if you are supposed to be a &#8216;Knight&#8217;! heh, great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Jennings</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-8041</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, at a quick glance it could be a bird. A little longer glance, it looks like a fire helmet (with the extended back part). Only after deliberately looking at it does the knight's helmet show through. It also looks heavy on the right side (even though it appears to be centered).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, at a quick glance it could be a bird. A little longer glance, it looks like a fire helmet (with the extended back part). Only after deliberately looking at it does the knight&#8217;s helmet show through. It also looks heavy on the right side (even though it appears to be centered).</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rodimel</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-8035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rodimel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 23:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without looking at a style guide, my initial opinion is that the graphic element isn’t properly balanced with the text.  

This creates a jarring effect rather than pleasing sense of movement.

The font neither matches (the curves of the letter differ from curves of the helmet) nor contrasts the graphic element leading to the “kinda, sorta but not really” feel.

“San Marcos” inherently carries more weight than “Knights” because it has more letters and takes up more space. 

Therefore, making “Knights” darker is unnecessary and causes “Knights” to get lost because it is at the bottom of the logo.  

Lastly, please don’t sweat the “bird”.

If a committee consisting of government workers and a high school “student representative” were to approve anything decent it would upset the order of the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without looking at a style guide, my initial opinion is that the graphic element isn’t properly balanced with the text.  </p>
<p>This creates a jarring effect rather than pleasing sense of movement.</p>
<p>The font neither matches (the curves of the letter differ from curves of the helmet) nor contrasts the graphic element leading to the “kinda, sorta but not really” feel.</p>
<p>“San Marcos” inherently carries more weight than “Knights” because it has more letters and takes up more space. </p>
<p>Therefore, making “Knights” darker is unnecessary and causes “Knights” to get lost because it is at the bottom of the logo.  </p>
<p>Lastly, please don’t sweat the “bird”.</p>
<p>If a committee consisting of government workers and a high school “student representative” were to approve anything decent it would upset the order of the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-8019</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 00:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the icon itself very much. Simple, clean, with movement. I hate the text. I dont see a bird in this at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the icon itself very much. Simple, clean, with movement. I hate the text. I dont see a bird in this at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2007/05/04/san-marcos-high-school-football-rules/#comment-8018</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that i'm not turned of by the helmet part of the logo.  Kind of a new edgy twist on a classic topic.  It has a nice sporty feel to it.  However, I do not like the text portion at all.  I can see why the font was chosen, but you've got a mid-evil style of font with a modern flashy knight helmet.  The text doesn't coincide at all with the graphic.  Maybe taking the basic concept of the text, or a few of the lettering elements and then treat them like helmet was.  Add some sharp slashy elements, and try to incorporate it more with the helmet.  Not really a high end product in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that i&#8217;m not turned of by the helmet part of the logo.  Kind of a new edgy twist on a classic topic.  It has a nice sporty feel to it.  However, I do not like the text portion at all.  I can see why the font was chosen, but you&#8217;ve got a mid-evil style of font with a modern flashy knight helmet.  The text doesn&#8217;t coincide at all with the graphic.  Maybe taking the basic concept of the text, or a few of the lettering elements and then treat them like helmet was.  Add some sharp slashy elements, and try to incorporate it more with the helmet.  Not really a high end product in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don't think it's that ugly, but it's not the that great either. I'm not yet a graphic designer, but I have some understanding of logo design, so I think the helmet doesn't look much like a bird, maybe it's because of the profile view and those swooshes around it but I think this part is not bad at all. Maybe it's just the conditioned interpretations of symbols that makes us look at those things differently but I don't know.
I also like the colors which are chosen here, it has a "royality" feel to it, but I think the lower part could be done much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that ugly, but it&#8217;s not the that great either. I&#8217;m not yet a graphic designer, but I have some understanding of logo design, so I think the helmet doesn&#8217;t look much like a bird, maybe it&#8217;s because of the profile view and those swooshes around it but I think this part is not bad at all. Maybe it&#8217;s just the conditioned interpretations of symbols that makes us look at those things differently but I don&#8217;t know.<br />
I also like the colors which are chosen here, it has a &#8220;royality&#8221; feel to it, but I think the lower part could be done much better.</p>
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